Is that it ?....
Today, if you believe the Daily Bile and associated media, was the day the post Plebgate 'two' were 'held to account'
Two Federation representatives have apologised to a parliamentary committee over evidence they gave before it previously, regarding the Plebgate affair.
Detective Sergeant Stuart Hinton, of Warwickshire Police, apologised for the “inadvertent error” he made by failing to recognise he had referred to the Home Secretary, Theresa May, as “this woman that the Conservative Party have”.
He had made the comment during a meeting with Andrew Mitchell MP last year but denied saying it during a hearing before the Home Affairs Select Committee on October 23.
Meanwhile Sergeant Chris Jones, of West Midlands Police, said he did not believe he had misled the committee over his disciplinary record – where he failed to mention that he had had 13 investigations into his conduct during his career. This was because the two cases that resulted in action were not misconduct sanctions - and only advice was given, he told the committee on November 5.
Sgt Jones said he would apologise however, for misunderstanding the question put to him by MPs.
The two Fed officers appeared before the committee - following its own critical report - which claimed they may have misled members at the October hearing into Plebgate.
Chairman Keith Vaz had warned them that they risked being in contempt of parliament if their answers were not satisfactory.
Det Sgt Hinton said he had not remembered referring to the Home Secretary in such a way when it was put to him on October 23 – but he had since reread the transcript and acknowledged his “inadvertent error”.
He said his explanation was no excuse for referring to Mrs May as “this woman” and he had since written an apology to her.
“I would like to apologise to the Home Secretary for using those words,” he said.
Both officers reiterated however that their position in relation to the Mitchell meeting itself had “not changed”. They had previously denied giving a misleading account to the media after meeting Mr Mitchell over allegations that he had called officers “plebs” in Downing Street.
During the meeting, the three Fed representatives appeared to clear the air with Mr Mitchell, according to a transcript. But they later appeared to call his integrity into question in front of a waiting media scrum.
Both officers told the Committee on November 5 that they “cannot apologise for something we haven’t done” – but they did “recognise the disproportionate distress” caused to Mr Mitchell and his family.
Concerning his failure to disclose his disciplinary record, Sgt Jones added: “It was not my intention to mislead the committee. If I have misled the committee because I misunderstood the question then I apologise for that.”
I am not sure whether Chairman Vaz and committee members have had their pound of flesh or not.
Is calling Ms May “this woman that the Conservative Party have” an offence? Terse perhaps, but in essence basically factual.
In relation to the disciplinary record there were NO disciplinary issues of note. NEVER subject to discipline on record
Its like the occasional question you get at trial by Defence when they are struggling
'Officer has anyone ever complained about your behaviour in the office of Constable'
Any active officer has. It comes with the job if you do it 'without fear or favour'
This is /was in effect a public 'de facto' trial with the IPCC ( independent ...HAH) hovering in the background and the CPS still chewing over what went on on the day.
I suppose MP's can go home and have a warm glow in their hearts on their days work..or is that due to the taxpayer subsidised energy bills we are now hearing about.
Two Federation representatives have apologised to a parliamentary committee over evidence they gave before it previously, regarding the Plebgate affair.
Detective Sergeant Stuart Hinton, of Warwickshire Police, apologised for the “inadvertent error” he made by failing to recognise he had referred to the Home Secretary, Theresa May, as “this woman that the Conservative Party have”.
He had made the comment during a meeting with Andrew Mitchell MP last year but denied saying it during a hearing before the Home Affairs Select Committee on October 23.
Meanwhile Sergeant Chris Jones, of West Midlands Police, said he did not believe he had misled the committee over his disciplinary record – where he failed to mention that he had had 13 investigations into his conduct during his career. This was because the two cases that resulted in action were not misconduct sanctions - and only advice was given, he told the committee on November 5.
Sgt Jones said he would apologise however, for misunderstanding the question put to him by MPs.
The two Fed officers appeared before the committee - following its own critical report - which claimed they may have misled members at the October hearing into Plebgate.
Chairman Keith Vaz had warned them that they risked being in contempt of parliament if their answers were not satisfactory.
Det Sgt Hinton said he had not remembered referring to the Home Secretary in such a way when it was put to him on October 23 – but he had since reread the transcript and acknowledged his “inadvertent error”.
He said his explanation was no excuse for referring to Mrs May as “this woman” and he had since written an apology to her.
“I would like to apologise to the Home Secretary for using those words,” he said.
Both officers reiterated however that their position in relation to the Mitchell meeting itself had “not changed”. They had previously denied giving a misleading account to the media after meeting Mr Mitchell over allegations that he had called officers “plebs” in Downing Street.
During the meeting, the three Fed representatives appeared to clear the air with Mr Mitchell, according to a transcript. But they later appeared to call his integrity into question in front of a waiting media scrum.
Both officers told the Committee on November 5 that they “cannot apologise for something we haven’t done” – but they did “recognise the disproportionate distress” caused to Mr Mitchell and his family.
Concerning his failure to disclose his disciplinary record, Sgt Jones added: “It was not my intention to mislead the committee. If I have misled the committee because I misunderstood the question then I apologise for that.”
I am not sure whether Chairman Vaz and committee members have had their pound of flesh or not.
Is calling Ms May “this woman that the Conservative Party have” an offence? Terse perhaps, but in essence basically factual.
In relation to the disciplinary record there were NO disciplinary issues of note. NEVER subject to discipline on record
Its like the occasional question you get at trial by Defence when they are struggling
'Officer has anyone ever complained about your behaviour in the office of Constable'
Any active officer has. It comes with the job if you do it 'without fear or favour'
This is /was in effect a public 'de facto' trial with the IPCC ( independent ...HAH) hovering in the background and the CPS still chewing over what went on on the day.
I suppose MP's can go home and have a warm glow in their hearts on their days work..or is that due to the taxpayer subsidised energy bills we are now hearing about.
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