Thursday, May 14, 2009

Quotes and votes


"We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."

George Orwell.

Now in today's day and age in our risk averse,hand wringing,all inclusive,don't dare upset ANYONE! world would probably read

We sleep safe in our beds because rough (a term which is under review and awaits a decision from the Champions lead on 'Challenging words which may indicate suggestion that police work may occasionally involve laying hands on people' Board) men ( All those employed by the police service, extended police family or those who work on a voluntary basis no matter what perceived sex or sexual orientation ) stand ready in the night (a term which does not suggest that those who wish to gain or remain in employment within the police service have to work hours which are normally considered extended or incompatible with family life) to visit violence ( a term which has negative implications and 'visiting' has to be fully justified and open to full public scrutiny) on those who would do us harm ( all harm doers are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law)....the reverse being true in the case of police officers on You Tube!

What has driven me to this ramble? this

Some considerable years ago,when my knees were up to it, I was a member of this Met unit.I thoroughly enjoyed my time with the TSG. I worked with a lot of good professional officers. We were motivated and up for anything that came our way. And it could be anything..from house to house following an incident,to full on public order...

TSG take no s** should be a motto but that is unlikely to be approved...and they don't.

When its going t*ts up and the Reserve are arriving they do not spill out of the carrier set up stalls and distribute leaflets or seek to find 'community leaders' on speed dial.Intervention is swift and those who decide to continue with the behaviour after arrival are dealt with by way of arrest and placing before the local custody sergeant.

Some within Boroughs in the Met (squads and CID were the worst) used to occasionally sneer....but still called us in when the doors in.. hands on stuff was required.
Since moving on I have had various reasons to request TSG assistance.
The motivation and professionalism of those officers remain the same.

The MET need the TSG as a first response and I doubt the bleating of those in the link will be listened to.


200 weeks mentions his idea of a Support our TSG' group in his post of 'Too many kettlers'....put me down for that.


Blogger Stressed Out Cop said...

Ah But are they as good as they used to be ?? Some negative off duty stories show that a few should not be there.

Of course they do what it says on the tin - The streets have been known to empty when they approach, I think that's good thing.

Nets out start trawling - A necessity that must remain in all forces. It ain't pretty but it is effective.

11:04 AM  
Blogger Officer Dibble said...

Stressed out

I could drift into the 'when the group was the group' as all ex TSG do when the blue lamp swings.

Still an effective bunch though.

They do what it says on the tin is spot on..particularly with the new boxey 4 wheeled tins they drive around in...

5:43 PM  
Blogger Stressed Out Cop said...

... you are indeed a brother

Those new boxes not as good as the old Rhino's though - look a bit travel sicky to me.

High 5 .. SOC

2:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a serving Met officer Level TWO Public Order and rapid entry trained I have one question to pose.If the TSG was not so effective(and a unit I will attempt to join despite the horrendus application form)why do most Borough OCU'S have a mini TSG in the form of a support unit? P.S. most of the best SGT'S and Inspector's have served on the Group.

3:28 PM  
Blogger Officer Dibble said...


Personally,I always thought TSG was an understandable move on for uniform officers from relief
(is that phrase used anymore?) who enjoyed that side of the work. It comes without the paperwork and grief associated with Borough policing.Still a popular posting then by the signs of a weary application form to start off!

A number of Boroughs have developed and maintained their own support units.

Basically most Borough Commanders have realised that bids for a limited resource to cover their ground for certain times/hotspots was uncertain so they created their own mini versions to be available to deal with specific local problems.

The problem is they get stripped to the bone when the major public order comes in.

Yeah,agree most ex TSG skippers Inspectors and above are good to work for.I have come across a couple of exceptions but in those cases I think a spell on a public order ticket was a step to somewhere else.

2:23 PM  
Blogger thinblueline said...

Not all of us in CID sneer at the thick and stupid squad.

Look at you ,You can type and use the interweb with out a packet of crayons !!

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12:11 AM  

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